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On this "Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan" broadcast, moderated by Margaret Brennan:
- National Security Adviser Mike Waltz
- Rep. Rand Paul, Republican of Kentucky
- Rep. Jim Himes, Democrat of Connecticut
- Dr. Scott Gottlieb, erstwhile FDA commissoner
- CBS News correspondents Camilo Montoya-Galvez and Scott MacFarlane
Click here to browse afloat transcripts from 2025 of "Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan."
MARGARET BRENNAN: I'm Margaret Brennan successful Washington.
And this week connected Face the Nation: The tsunami of enactment shaking up Washington and beyond continues. And President Trump prods Ukraine and Russia toward peace.
Overnight, the U.S. pounded Iranian-backed Houthi targets successful Yemen again. And the backlash grows implicit the Trump administration's deportation of alleged Venezuelan pack members. We volition speech to White House National Security Adviser Mike Waltz, the caput of the Senate Homeland Security Committee Kentucky Republican Rand Paul, and the apical Democrat connected the House Intelligence Committee, Connecticut's Jim Himes.
Meanwhile, members of Congress whitethorn person been blessed to caput location for recess past week, but present they whitethorn beryllium anxious to get backmost to Washington.
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MAN: Do you stock a interest that we're careening toward an authoritarian country?
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MARGARET BRENNAN: As elected officials connected some sides of the aisle got an earful from aggravated constituents.
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MAN #1: The connection that was sent by Democrats successful Congress with the C.R. catastrophe was clear. It's not that you're successful the minority. It's that you aren't adjacent moving unneurotic connected a shared strategy. And that is failure!
MAN #2: Why bash you judge that President Trump is supra the law? Why person you not spoken retired for it?
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MARGARET BRENNAN: Plus, measles infections person present been reported successful 18 states. We volition consult with erstwhile FDA Commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb astir that and speech astir the interaction of Trump's cuts connected aesculapian research.
It's each conscionable up connected Face the Nation.
Good morning, and invited to Face the Nation.
There is simply a batch to screen connected the location front, but we statesman archetypal connected nationalist security. In conscionable a fewer hours, U.S. officials volition beryllium holding talks with Ukraine and time a abstracted circular with Russia successful pursuit of a 30-day cease-fire.
In the meantime, the Trump medication is ramping up the U.S. subject beingness successful the Middle East, sending a 2nd craft bearer to the region.
We statesman this greeting with White House National Security Adviser Mike Waltz.
Good to person you here.
MIKE WALTZ (U.S. National Security Adviser): Thanks, Margaret.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So, the Iran-backed Houthis, they proceed to occurrence astatine Israel. What has the past week of bombing achieved? And if you're holding Iran responsible, what's next?
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: Well, we person taken retired cardinal Houthi leadership, including their caput missileer. We person deed their headquarters. We person deed communications nodes, weapons factories, and adjacent immoderate of their over-the-water drone accumulation facilities conscionable successful the past mates of days.
President Trump has decided to deed the Houthis and deed them hard, arsenic opposed to, successful the past administration, wherever virtually weeks oregon months would spell by with these benignant of one-off pinprick attacks. And, arsenic a result, we person had 1 of the world's astir captious oversea lanes get unopen down.
I mean, these guys are similar al Qaeda oregon ISIS with precocious cruise missiles, ballistic missiles, and immoderate of the astir blase aerial defenses, each provided by Iran, Margaret. Just to – truthful everybody understands the interaction here…
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: … the past clip 1 of our destroyers went done the straits there, it was attacked 23 times; 75 percent of our U.S.-flagged shipping present has to spell astir the confederate seashore of Africa, alternatively than going done the Suez Canal.
And keeping the oversea lanes open, keeping commercialized and commerce open…
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: … is simply a cardinal facet of our nationalist security. The past medication was not effective.
The Trump medication and President Trump person decided to bash thing overmuch harder, overmuch tougher, and overmuch – and what – we volition see, but I deliberation volition beryllium overmuch much effective.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So the president said he's going to clasp Iran liable arsenic well. Envoy Steve Witkoff said successful an interrogation that Iran had responded to this U.S. outreach via aggregate channels successful respect to a missive sent by the president.
Witkoff described it arsenic an connection to Iran to make a verification programme truthful cipher worries astir weaponization of atomic material. Can you clarify, is the U.S. seeking the dismantlement of Iran's atomic programme oregon verification, similar what President Obama enactment successful spot backmost successful 2015 and President Trump pulled retired of?
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: Full dismantlement.
MARGARET BRENNAN: OK.
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: Iran has to springiness up its programme successful a mode that the full satellite tin see.
And this is – look, arsenic President…
MARGARET BRENNAN: Have they said they're interested?
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: As President Trump has said, this is coming to a head. All options are connected the table.
And it is clip for Iran to locomotion distant wholly from its tendency to person a atomic weapon. That – and they volition not and cannot beryllium allowed to person a atomic weapons program.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Have they responded to the president's telephone for these talks?
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: That's enrichment, that is weaponization, and that is its strategical rocket program.
Can you lone imagine?
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: We person seen the decease and demolition that they're doing done its proxies, betwixt Hezbollah, the Assad regime, the Houthis and what person you. If they had atomic weapons, the full Middle East would detonate successful an arms race.
That is wholly unacceptable to our nationalist security. I won't get into what the back-and-forth has been, but Iran is successful the worst spot it has been from its ain nationalist information since 1979, acknowledgment to Hezbollah, Hamas, the Assad authorities and its ain aerial defenses being taken retired by the Israelis.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So there's inactive a accidental for diplomacy? I cognize you won't get into…
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NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: Well, of course.
MARGARET BRENNAN: OK.
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: The president has each options connected the table, but we privation to beryllium clear.
MARGARET BRENNAN: OK.
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: This isn't immoderate benignant of – benignant of tit for tat that we had nether the Obama medication oregon Biden.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Right.
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: This is the afloat program. Give it up oregon determination volition beryllium consequences.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I privation to inquire you, person to home, what has been happening present with Tren de Aragua, TDA, we're going to telephone them, which person been designated by the Trump medication arsenic terrorists.
Last Saturday, 238 Venezuelan men were handed implicit to the authorities of El Salvador; 137 of them were deported utilizing this seldom utilized 1789 Alien Enemies Act. This is important due to the fact that it gives the powerfulness to detain and deport without a tribunal proceeding archetypal if they travel from countries astatine warfare with the U.S.
In the proceeding connected Friday, it was revealed that El Salvador, wherever they're being held, rejected 2 of the people, 1 connected the ground of gender, due to the fact that it was a pistillate and they can't beryllium held astatine a maximum-security prison, the different due to the fact that the idiosyncratic wasn't adjacent Venezuelan astatine all.
How does that benignant of high-consequence mistake happen?
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: Well, these benignant of one-offs, we volition woody with connected an idiosyncratic basis.
But, Margaret, the underlying contented present is twofold.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So determination was a mistake that you admit there?
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: I – I can't talk to those idiosyncratic cases and the details of the idiosyncratic cases.
But what I tin talk to is, President Trump has determined that this radical is acting arsenic a violent organization. It is terrorizing our communities done attacks, torture, rape and the astir atrocious of situations for those communities, fig one.
And, fig two, the Alien Sedition Act afloat applies due to the fact that we person besides determined that this radical is acting arsenic a proxy of the Maduro regime. So…
MARGARET BRENNAN: You person – I'm sorry, conscionable to clarify connected that, this is expected to use if the U.S. is astatine warfare with a country. You are saying you person grounds that the authorities of Venezuela is directing these gangs?
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: We are saying – we are saying – we are saying that TDA is acting arsenic a proxy of the Maduro regime. This is however the Alien Sedition Act applies. And we cannot person territory judges interfering with the commandant successful chief's actions to instrumentality attraction of successful the mode helium deems indispensable a violent organization.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So the U.S. is astatine warfare with Venezuela?
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: And I got to archer you, we tin – we tin statement connected Article II, Article III. That's a just debate.
However, successful this case, the commandant successful chief, President Trump, is taking decisive enactment to escaped our communities of these gangs that are operating successful a paramilitary fashion.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: And that we cognize Maduro is deliberately emptying his prisons…
MARGARET BRENNAN: Right.
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: … successful a proxy mode to power and onslaught the United States.
MARGARET BRENNAN: That's antithetic – that's truthful different…
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: But that's how…
MARGARET BRENNAN: The U.S. is not astatine warfare with the state of Venezuela.
I cognize the lawyer wide said connected different network…
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: Look, this is not…
MARGARET BRENNAN: … she thinks this is going to spell to the Supreme Court.
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: Sure. That's fine. But…
MARGARET BRENNAN: You privation to person this fight.
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: No, but, Margaret, we person instances wherever the IRGC from Iran person operated to – by, with and done Mexican cartels, to past weaponry facilities present successful the United States. We person taken decisive enactment successful that regard. We're going to instrumentality decisive enactment successful this regard.
And we're making a Washington, D.C., distinction…
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: … erstwhile the American radical are bushed of being terrorized by these gangs. So…
MARGARET BRENNAN: No 1 is defending gangs. But determination is concern…
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: Well, but it sounds similar it. It surely sounds similar it from the Democrats connected the different side.
MARGARET BRENNAN: There is interest that this is being carried retired successful a sloppy way.
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: It sounds similar successful the lawsuit of this justice that wanted to crook a formation astir afloat of pack members that had quality packets that had determined what they're doing.
MARGARET BRENNAN: There was a pistillate sent to a men's – man's prison, and El Salvador said no.
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NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: I mean, OK.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So it's the question of, if you're suspending the quality to person a time successful court…
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: Look, I can't talk to the those idiosyncratic details, if you privation to…
MARGARET BRENNAN: … that you get the database right, right…
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: But nether – right.
MARGARET BRENNAN: … that you tin verify that these radical are pack members.
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: But nether – look, each 1 of them were present illegally.
So, archetypal of all, we had each close and each – and should deport each 1 of these individuals. If you privation to marque a peculiar lawsuit for one, that's fine.
MARGARET BRENNAN: But they weren't deported. They were sent to the prison.
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: But underlying that – underlying that is the Alien Act that has determined the commandant successful main has the implicit authorization to bash this.
MARGARET BRENNAN: We volition speech astir this much with the Homeland Security Committee chair, Rand Paul, ahead, I'm sure.
I request to get to Ukraine with you due to the fact that this is progressive diplomacy, arsenic we mentioned. The Ukrainians accepted this U.S. cease-fire without preconditions, according to the announcement. The Russians said lone holding backmost connected vigor infrastructure.
What's the extremity retired of these talks that are astir to statesman successful Saudi Arabia?
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: Yes, well, first, we're moving person and we're person to bid than we ever person been. This started with President Trump talking to some leaders backmost to back.
We past – Secretary of State Rubio and I engaged the Russians, engaged the Ukrainians astatine our level, and present we person method teams really with Ukrainians and Russians successful the aforesaid installation conducting proximity talks.
And the progression volition be, we person this cease-fire connected aerial infrastructure. That went successful spot instantly aft President Trump's telephone with President Putin this week. We are present going to speech astir a Black Sea maritime cease-fire, truthful that some sides tin determination grain, substance and commencement conducting commercialized again successful the Black Sea.
And past we volition speech the enactment of control, which is the existent beforehand lines. And that gets into the details of verification mechanisms, peacekeeping, freezing the lines wherever they are, and then, of course, the broader and imperishable peace, which volition beryllium immoderate benignant of treatment of territory for imperishable bid and a lasting peace, what the Ukrainians thin to speech astir oregon person talked astir arsenic information guarantees.
MARGARET BRENNAN: One of the things the president has said helium wants to spot is the instrumentality of these Ukrainian children who were abducted arsenic portion of a authorities program…
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: Yes.
MARGARET BRENNAN: … by Russia to Russify them, instrumentality them from their families and determination them into Russia.
Why did the State Department chopped disconnected backing to 1 of the programs that helps find these kids? It's a Yale University program. And they said – the wealth was chopped off. There are senators, including Grassley and Tillis, who privation to cognize why. Do you cognize why?
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: Well, Secretary Rubio is conducting a reappraisal of each of those programs. I can't talk to that circumstantial one.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Because it seems astatine likelihood with the goal.
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: But I tin accidental that President Trump has spoken to some leaders astir captive exchanges. Both the Russians and Ukrainians exchanged prisoners, astir 200, instantly pursuing their call.
And he's besides talked astir the aboriginal of these children. So that's surely archetypal and foremost successful benignant of confidence-building measures.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: But, again, Margaret, we person to instrumentality a measurement back. We person to instrumentality a measurement back.
Just a fewer months ago, nary 1 was talking astir however this warfare would end. And we person to inquire ourselves, what would it look similar a twelvemonth from now, 2 years from now, 3 years from now?
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: We were successful an endless stalemate here. And present we person some sides successful the aforesaid installation with the United States truly surviving out, I think, successful existent clip President Trump's imaginativeness to extremity this war, which helium campaigned on.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Just to beryllium clear, are you asking for the merchandise of these children arsenic a confidence-building measure? Is that what you meant?
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: We're talking done a fig of confidence-building measures. That's 1 of them.
MARGARET BRENNAN: OK. Thank you, Mike Waltz.
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MIKE WALTZ: Thank you. All right.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Face the Nation volition beryllium backmost successful a minute.
Stay with us.
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MARGARET BRENNAN: And we crook present to Kentucky Republican Senator Rand Paul. He is the seat of the Homeland Security Committee. And helium joins america this greeting from Bowling Green, Kentucky.
Good greeting to you, Senator.
Because…
SENATOR RAND PAUL (R-Kentucky): Good morning. Thanks for having me.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure.
Because of your relation successful connected Homeland Security, I privation to travel up wherever we near disconnected with National Security Adviser Waltz. There are ineligible questions astir utilizing these authorities to nonstop retired detainees without giving them a time successful court, but there's besides conscionable questions of however it's being handled successful respect to these individuals who were rejected by El Salvador, 1 for gender, 1 due to the fact that they weren't Venezuelan astatine all.
Do these interest – does immoderate of this interest you, on with claims from their household members that galore of these radical weren't pack members?
SENATOR RAND PAUL: You know, determination are immoderate large ineligible questions here.
On the 1 hand, the Bill of Rights applies to everyone, to persons. The Bill of Rights doesn't specifically designate citizens. It's truly anyone successful the United States the Bill of Rights applies to. On the different hand, the Alien Enemies Act simply says, you truly don't get overmuch process. The president tin simply state that you are someway a occupation for overseas argumentation and opposed to our overseas argumentation and you tin beryllium deported.
So, really, ultimately, this goes to the court, and past the court's going to person to decide, are they going to state unconstitutional a instrumentality that's been astir for a mates 100 years oregon are they going to defer to Congress?
If you look astatine the TikTok determination recently, which I don't hold with, but successful the TikTok decision, the tribunal fundamentally said, we're going to defer to Congress. Congress says this is astir nationalist security, and who are we to question? And I deliberation they should person ruled based on…
MARGARET BRENNAN: Right, and past the president issued an enforcement bid that defied the legislature – what Congress did.
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SENATOR RAND PAUL: Yes. Right. Right.
But my constituent is, is, I deliberation the tribunal should person ruled connected the First Amendment with respect to TikTok and not said, oh, well, immoderate Congress wants. But if you look astatine the TikTok determination and you had to conjecture what the Supreme County is going to do, my conjecture is, they volition uphold the Alien Enemies Act. It's not needfully my position, but I deliberation the tribunal volition uphold it.
So it's astatine slightest debatable connected some sides who's close oregon who's incorrect here. And I deliberation it's not close for Democrats to simply say…
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
SENATOR RAND PAUL: … oh, it's law chaos, there's nary limb to basal on. There really is ineligible authorization connected the 1 manus that's been astir for implicit 200 years.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
But conscionable – we're not talking astir partisan politics. We're talking astir the courts close present and what the justice said helium had questions astir and talks astir this being done fundamentally successful the screen of night. This seems to beryllium an statement the medication wants to person spell to the Supreme Court.
SENATOR RAND PAUL: Yes.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Are you comfy with bypassing what you described as, you know, what's guaranteed successful the Bill of Rights, a time successful court, oregon astatine slightest immoderate verification that immoderate of these radical really are blameworthy successful immoderate mode of what they're accused of, which is rank successful a gang?
SENATOR RAND PAUL: So we person a contradiction. We fundamentally person the Constitution that says everyone, persons successful the United States person owed process rights, person the Bill of Rights connected their side.
But we besides person instrumentality that has been successful powerfulness for 200 years saying, oh, well, but erstwhile the president wants to deport people. So, these are successful conflict. There volition person to beryllium immoderate decision-making.
On the question of whether oregon not a territory justice tin marque a ruling for the full country, that's besides a precise large question. And I suspect, arsenic this works its mode up to the Supreme Court, erstwhile you get to the Supreme Court, I bash judge the Supreme Court is going to bounds territory judges from having nationwide rulings.
So I deliberation that's besides successful the offing. But these are immense ineligible questions. And the lone mode they statesman is by a challenge.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
SENATOR RAND PAUL: If the president doesn't situation these, they ne'er person lasting and ne'er get to court. So, connected the 1 hand, the president is generating this, but it's the lone mode to make a last decision from the court.
MARGARET BRENNAN: It conscionable sounds – I mean, these are debates for instrumentality professors, certainly. But, successful the meantime, determination are individuals who whitethorn person been sent wrongly to these facilities that are extracurricular the U.S. jurisdiction.
Are you comfortable, arsenic the antheral with oversight arsenic seat of the committee, with what's being done?
SENATOR RAND PAUL: I deliberation the courts volition regularisation that determination has to beryllium immoderate process.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So, yes, you're comfy with it?
SENATOR RAND PAUL: I don't deliberation you're going to beryllium capable to deport radical – so, no, I – well, I don't deliberation – you're answering for me.
I deliberation determination is going to beryllium immoderate process afforded by the courts for practice earlier you're deported successful astir cases. I don't cognize astir the ones nether the Alien Enemies Act, and I'm not definite anybody knows that. And, portion I emotion law law, I'm not a law lawyer.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
SENATOR RAND PAUL: I bash deliberation it goes to the Supreme Court, and determination are arguments to beryllium made connected some sides of this question.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Got it.
I privation to inquire you astir immoderate legislature business. I person seen it reported that you person pitched to Elon Musk a program to claw backmost $500 cardinal successful national backing that Congress has already approved. There was an effort backmost successful 2018 to bash thing similar this, and it failed.
Do you deliberation you tin really get this done successful a rescission package, and however overmuch wealth bash you deliberation you tin get back?
SENATOR RAND PAUL: Well, this goes to different immense ineligible question. Can the president impound money, oregon does helium person to nonstop it back, and we o.k. the cuts done rescission?
And this is going each the mode to the Supreme Court also, due to the fact that I deliberation the Trump medication believes they tin conscionable not walk it. There's different question wrong the question, tin the president and his radical – tin Secretary Rubio intermission the spending?
On that issue, I deliberation they volition win. You volition beryllium capable to intermission spending arsenic agelong arsenic you don't spell done the extremity of an appropriations year. If you get done that, I judge it's impoundment. And I deliberation the courts truthful acold person said it has to travel back…
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
SENATOR RAND PAUL: … unless, arsenic the Trump medication argues, that the Impoundment Act is unconstitutional.
So this one's headed to the Supreme Court also. It is my idiosyncratic content we should adhere to the instrumentality arsenic it is now, and that is nonstop it backmost and person Congress corroborate it. It's a elemental bulk vote. It's called rescission. I did notation this to Elon Musk.
He seemed enthusiastic it tin beryllium done. No Democrats – you person to realize…
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
SENATOR RAND PAUL: … nary Democrat volition chopped 1 penny from immoderate spending anywhere.
But tin we get each the Republicans is the existent question.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You tin get 51 Republicans, you think, to get connected committee with this?
SENATOR RAND PAUL: Well, I deliberation the president is going to person – the president is going to person to usage efficaciously his bully pulpit and his popularity to person each Republicans to bash it.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
SENATOR RAND PAUL: It's not a fixed that Republicans volition basal – volition ballot for this.
We tried it erstwhile successful the archetypal administration.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Right, I remember.
SENATOR RAND PAUL: It was lone $15 billion. And we lost. We mislaid 2 Republicans.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Two Republicans.
SENATOR RAND PAUL: But my proposition to the Trump – my proposition to the Trump medication is, travel to the Republicans who you fishy mightiness person misgivings and person them successful advance.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
SENATOR RAND PAUL: Don't enactment it successful their lap. Bring them $500 billion. And if they say, this $10 billion, I can't woody with, I tin woody with the 490, you're going to person to pre-negotiate the rescissions package.
But I deliberation you could get there.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I privation to inquire you astir the Department of Education.
States, arsenic everyone, I think, knows, supply the bulk of the backing and oversight for your section schools. But Kentucky, erstwhile we looked astatine the numbers, gets the 4th astir national acquisition backing per pupil of immoderate authorities successful this country. You person implicit 900 schools that person these Title I programs, which are low-income schools who request that national subsidy to proceed to operate.
How are schools going to get that wealth if the president closes the Education Department?
SENATOR RAND PAUL: I deliberation the bigger question, if we're sending each this wealth to Kentucky and each the different states, wherefore are our scores abysmal? Why bash two-thirds of the kids not work astatine proficiency? Why bash two-thirds of the kids oregon much not person mathematics proficiency?
MARGARET BRENNAN: Isn't that up to the state?
SENATOR RAND PAUL: So, it's been an utter failure. What I'd similar to – fto maine finish.
I'd permission it backmost to the states. It has ever been a position, a precise mainstream Republican position, to person power of the schools by the states, nonstop the wealth backmost to the states, or, amended yet, ne'er instrumentality it from the states.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
SENATOR RAND PAUL: About fractional of our fund successful Kentucky goes to education, and that's the aforesaid successful a batch of states.
I deliberation we tin grip it overmuch better. When I speech to teachers, they chafe astatine the nationalist mandates connected testing, they deliberation are not due for their kids. They deliberation they discarded excessively overmuch clip teaching to nationalist testing.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Right.
SENATOR RAND PAUL: The teachers would similar much autonomy, and I deliberation the teachers merit much autonomy.
MARGARET BRENNAN: But erstwhile we looked astatine the fund successful Kentucky, the authorities receives $2 cardinal successful national acquisition funding. Do you person a warrant that the national government, national taxpayers volition inactive supply $2 cardinal successful acquisition funding? That seems important to your state.
SENATOR RAND PAUL: I'd alternatively – well, no, I'd alternatively is simply a warrant that my kids tin work and constitute and bash math.
The magnitude of dollars – look, the fig of dollars has gone up exponentially and our scores person gone the different way. So dollars are not proportional to acquisition success. What I privation is success. And I person talked a batch astir this. I deliberation determination are innovations we tin bash wherever there's much learning via immoderate of the champion teachers and we wage them more.
I would similar to person an NBA oregon NFL of teachers, the astir bonzer teachers, thatch the full country, if not the full world.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Who would tally that, the Education Department?
SENATOR RAND PAUL: And immoderate of them – no, what you would find is, they'd beryllium selected retired authorities by state, crossed the nation.
Look, radical say, oh, without the Department of Education, we would person nary testing. I was successful schoolhouse earlier then. We did accomplishment tests successful the sixth grade, the 5th grade, the eighth grade, and we compared ourselves crossed authorities lines. There were planetary testing.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
SENATOR RAND PAUL: You don't request the Department of Education for immoderate of that.
MARGARET BRENNAN: OK.
SENATOR RAND PAUL: But what I tin archer you is, the champion teacher successful the satellite is not teaching the kids.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
SENATOR RAND PAUL: What we request to bash is person the champion teachers and wage them more.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
SENATOR RAND PAUL: But they wouldn't thatch 30 kids. They mightiness thatch 10 cardinal kids astatine a clip due to the fact that it would beryllium presented done the Internet, with section teachers reinforcing the lessons.
MARGARET BRENNAN: OK.
Well, I'm definite we volition beryllium talking much astir this. Senator Paul, convey you for your clip today.
We volition beryllium close back.
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MARGARET BRENNAN: And we volition beryllium close backmost with the apical Democrat successful the House Intelligence Committee, Jim Himes.
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MARGARET BRENNAN: Welcome backmost to FACE THE NATION.
We crook present to the apical Democrat connected the House Intelligence Committee, Connecticut Congressman Jim Himes. He joins america this greeting from Greenwich.
Good greeting to you.
I privation to leap close into it connected the speech astir this Venezuelan gang. You person said immoderate of your chap Democrats person been excessively speedy to usage the word law crisis. But due to the fact that of the usage of the Alien Enemies Act and this gang, you person started to go acrophobic that's wherever we are. Can you explicate that?
REPRESENTATIVE JIM HIMES (D-CT): Yes, that's right, Margaret, and acknowledgment for having me.
You know, law situation is simply a - a benignant of broadly utilized term. Lots of radical person antithetic definitions for it. It's a batch of worldly you don't like.
I'll archer you what I cognize is simply a law crisis. If the president of the United States decides to disregard the orders of a tribunal - we person not seen that since Andrew Jackson did that successful 1834. When that happens, you person a supine connected its backmost Congress of the United States, wholly beholden to the president, not acting arsenic a check. And if the president says, I don't attraction what the tribunal - courts say, which, by the way, helium has not said, but which Tom Homan, his czar for deportation has said, present you person a full-blown law crisis.
So, I deliberation these adjacent mates of days, arsenic we spot however this medication goes aft the galore judges and the galore courts - galore of these judges appointed by Republican presidents who are stopping the chaotic and amerciable actions of this administration, we're going to spot whether we are successful a true, you know, Jacksonian law crisis.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Because of your relation connected the Intelligence Committee, I cognize you person immoderate visibility into the assessments of U.S. intelligence. "The New York Times" reported that the quality assemblage said, with mean confidence, that the gang, TDA, that we've been talking about, is not directed by the Venezuelan government. However, the nationalist information advisor conscionable told america connected this program, TDA is acting arsenic a proxy of the Venezuelan government. Why does that favoritism matter?
REPRESENTATIVE JIM HIMES: Yes, well, it doesn't matter. And I'll travel backmost astir to that.
But look, what - what - what radical interest astir is that this medication acts with an unbelievable benignant of cocktail of incompetence and illegality. When you occurrence each of the radical astatine the Department of Energy who look aft our atomic weapons and past say, oops, we request to prosecute you back, that's incompetence.
I listened to Mike. Mike is simply a person of mine. I person respect for Mike. But what helium did was dodge your question. I'm not a lawyer, but I tin work the archetypal paragraph of the Aliens Enemy Act, which says precise intelligibly that the authorization that this medication claims is babelike connected a declaration of war.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
REPRESENTATIVE JIM HIMES: Not connected acting arsenic a proxy. So, Mike distorted the law. And, you know, I work "The New York Times" article, too. I haven't seen circumstantial quality astir whether there's immoderate transportation whatsoever betwixt Venezuela and the TDA gang.
But you're right, "The New York Times" - and, by the way, I'll get an reply connected this time and I'm going to person immoderate questions for Mike. "The New York Times," of course, reported that there's - that the quality assemblage believes that there's not a meaningful transportation betwixt Venezuela and the TDA gang. So, again, it's a bizarre operation of acting incompetently due to the fact that possibly there's a Venezuelan hairdresser, a cheery Venezuelan hairdresser with nary transportation to TDA. And if he's successful this state illegally, fine, deport him. But to bash it successful this mode nether authorities that are not ineligible is not the mode to bash this.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
You're - you're referring determination to immoderate reporting successful "Time" mag astir what happened to immoderate of these - 1 peculiar detainee. On Friday, the Justice Department announced a transgression probe into what they described arsenic the leak of classified quality astir this group, TDA. The lawman lawyer wide said they won't "tolerate politically motivated efforts by the heavy authorities to undercut President Trump's docket by leaking mendacious information" to "The New York Times."
Do you person immoderate interest - oregon is determination interest wrong the quality assemblage astir these leaks?
REPRESENTATIVE JIM HIMES: There's ever concerns astir leaks, Margaret. As ranking subordinate of the Intelligence Committee, I don't attraction who a leak benefits. Whether it benefits Joe Biden oregon Donald Trump oregon whatever, they are not OK. They are violations of the law.
It's precise absorbing though that characterization that you conscionable read, that we volition not tolerate leaks that are inconsistent with President Trump's agenda. And this gets astatine 1 of my worst fears with respect to the nationalist information operates nether Donald Trump. Everything is astir Donald Trump, right? And wherever I work, wrong and overseeing the quality community, it is perfectly indispensable that the quality assemblage beryllium astir 1 happening and 1 happening only, which is giving Donald Trump and different nationalist leaders unvarnished, unbiased advise. And if this is each astir serving the president's agenda, that is simply a conception that is wholly astatine likelihood with what the quality assemblage and what we walk $90 cardinal connected making definite that policymakers, the president main amongst them, has bully information.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I was listening to a municipality hallway that you did this past Thursday successful Connecticut, and you were asked who the person of the Democratic Party is. You threw retired immoderate of the benignant of known entities, governors retired there, but you said, "while the party's not leaderless, Hakeem Jeffries is young and untested and Leader Schumer is not a wartime president."
Do you deliberation that your enactment tin spend to enactment the people with the existing enactment they have?
REPRESENTATIVE JIM HIMES: Margaret, I deliberation we tin bash a batch amended occupation with the enactment that we had. What I was acknowledging successful the municipality hallway gathering - and I volition archer you, I've seen a batch of municipality hallway meetings. I saw Chuck Grassley's municipality hallway meeting. I saw my colleagues from Wyoming - ruby reddish Wyoming's clip successful the barrel.
And radical are outraged. They're outraged mainly, by the way, due to the fact that they're coming to recognize what Medicaid cuts are going to look similar for them, what it means to obliterate programs that truthful overmuch of the state - 70 cardinal radical successful the lawsuit of Medicaid - trust on. So, there's an immense magnitude of anger.
What I bash cognize is that it was not a bully look for the 2 legislature Democratic leaders to beryllium connected other sides of the continuing resolution. That created a large woody of adjita (ph) retired there, and legitimately so. So, I americium rather definite that Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer person learned from this acquisition and are going to, astatine a minimum, beryllium unified going guardant here.
MARGARET BRENNAN: We volition see.
Congressman Jim Himes, we'll beryllium watching you and that worldwide menace briefing that volition beryllium happening this coming week.
We'll beryllium close back.
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MARGARET BRENNAN: We crook present to America's wellness attraction strategy and erstwhile FDA Commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb. He's besides a committee subordinate astatine Pfizer.
Welcome backmost to FACE THE NATION.
SCOTT GOTTLIEB (Former FDA Commissioner): Thank you.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So, measles is present successful 18 states, arsenic I recognize it. Mostly Texas and New Mexico. But we person seen a increasing fig of infections, peculiarly successful children.
What bash parents request to cognize and are adults protected?
SCOTT GOTTLIEB: Adults who person been vaccinated should beryllium protected. This vaccine provides durable immunity. And there's nary proposal that anyone who's already been vaccinated, had the afloat docket of 2 doses of vaccine erstwhile they were children, would request to get different booster. But if radical are concerned, they tin cheque their titers (ph). The lone proposal that CDC makes is radical who are taking attraction of those with measles, possibly wellness attraction workers, mightiness see an further booster aboriginal successful life.
The bigger situation is with children. So, children get vaccinated, arsenic you know, astatine 1 year, and past again erstwhile they're entering schoolhouse astatine astir property four. There's a model wherever children astir apt don't person a batch of immunity. So, a kid born, has immoderate immunity passed from their ma up until astir six months. But there's a model betwixt six and 12 months wherever they are mostly unprotected. Typically, we don't vaccinate astatine six months due to the fact that babies don't person developed immune systems wherever they tin make a durable immunity from an immunization similar this. But there's immoderate recommendations present that children, betwixt the ages of six and 12 months, mightiness get a archetypal dose of vaccine. They would inactive necessitate a 2nd dose astatine property 1 and a 3rd dose astatine property four.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I saw the erstwhile CDC director, Rochelle Walensky, was talking astir that this past week.
SCOTT GOTTLIEB: Right.
MARGARET BRENNAN: The existent caput of HHS, Secretary Kennedy, has said helium wants anyone who desires the vaccine MMR to beryllium capable to get one. But helium besides describes himself arsenic a, quote, "freedom of prime person." I privation to get your investigation of what seemed to beryllium a suggested alternate treatment.
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ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR. (HHS Secretary): They are getting very, precise bully results they study from Budesonide (ph), which is simply a steroid. It's a 30- year-old steroid. And they're - and erythromycin (ph) and besides cod liver oil, which has precocious - precocious concentrations of vitamin a and vitamin d. And they are seeing what they picture arsenic astir miraculous, instantaneous betterment from that.
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MARGARET BRENNAN: Are those viable alternatives?
SCOTT GOTTLIEB: They're not viable alternatives to vaccination. And I'd overmuch similar if helium made a full-throated proposal to parents to get kids vaccinated, particularly successful a mounting of the regions wherever there's microorganism present spreading. He's talking astir steroids and antibiotics. Those volition usage successful the mounting of a kid who has developed pneumonitis, who's hospitalized, has respiratory distress. And truthful you mightiness dose them with antibiotics to forestall secondary infections. And steroids tin trim immoderate of the inflammation successful the lungs. The anticipation is children don't get into that benignant of distressed concern due to the fact that they've been vaccinated.
As acold arsenic vitamin a is concerned, there's truly scant grounds that it's effectual successful this setting. It's utilized successful the mounting of malnourished children wherever it mightiness supply immoderate benefit. But I deliberation talking astir those kinds of therapeutics successful this discourse creates a mendacious content that there's treatments disposable for measles when, successful fact, there's not. The lone mode to forestall measles and forestall the sequelic (ph) from measles is to get vaccinated.
You know, it's the aforesaid mode radical whitethorn see whether oregon not they take to get vaccinated for influenza, for the flu. Some radical mightiness marque a determination not to get vaccinated due to the fact that they cognize therapeutics are available. I surely would urge that - that they bash that.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
SCOTT GOTTLIEB: I deliberation everyone should get vaccinated for influenza. But immoderate radical mightiness marque that choice. There is nary prime successful this setting. There's thing effectual astatine mitigating the effects of measles erstwhile you get it. So, the lone mode to bash that is to get vaccinated.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes, the CDC website describes vitamin a arsenic supportive care, but vaccination the champion defense. So, convey you for explaining that.
There's nary CDC manager close now. The medication had to propulsion their nominee, arsenic you know, due to the fact that they couldn't get capable votes. Alex Tin (ph) present astatine CBS is reporting Florida's surgeon wide and a erstwhile Texas congressman, Michael Burgess, are some being floated for the job. How important is it to get idiosyncratic confirmed and successful the relation quickly?
SCOTT GOTTLIEB: Yes, I deliberation it's precise important, particularly erstwhile you spot what's going connected astir the state with this measles outbreak successful westbound Texas. We whitethorn person much measles cases this twelvemonth than we've had successful 25 years. And truthful having enactment astatine the CDC that tin nonstop that effect is exceedingly important.
Mike Burgess ran the wellness subcommittee connected vigor and commerce, worked intimately with the FDA erstwhile I was there. He was precise good, precise effective. He did a batch - a batch to beforehand our interdiction enactment successful message facilities to halt opioids from flowing done those facilities. He was precise dedicated to that effort. Actually visited the message installation successful New York astatine JFK Airport to spot firsthand the cognition earlier helium led a complaint successful Congress to assistance supply much backing to get much inspectors into the facilities. He has a batch of acquisition successful a batch of the areas wherever CDC has a precise applicable mission.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And they'll person to look a imaginable ballot erstwhile the president makes a enactment here.
I privation to inquire astir immoderate of the byproducts and immoderate of them deliberate cuts from the president's alleged belt-tightening here. There person been impacts at, for example, Johns Hopkins, an institute that does aesculapian probe and receives USAID grants. There are besides deliberate cuts that person been vowed astatine Columbia and UPenn, 2 universities that get national backing and bash wellness research. Do you person immoderate penetration into however galore wellness programs oregon the value of the wellness programs that volition beryllium affected?
SCOTT GOTTLIEB: Yes, I don't deliberation anyone has penetration into it yet. I deliberation this is inactive playing out. These impacts are happening crossed a mates of antithetic domains. There is restrictions connected the quality to spell guardant with caller grants due to the fact that of limitations, for example, posting things successful the national register. There's caller assistance making policies that are being implemented. So, definite entities, definite countries are being added to lists wherever you can't bash research. There were precocious immoderate grants canceled that coincided with probe that would beryllium done successful conjunction with China. They're terminating definite grants connected the ground of argumentation considerations, similar whether oregon not they person a definite DEI constituent and nevertheless they are defining that.
And past you spot the organization wide cuts. I deliberation that's what happened to Johns Hopkins with respect to the USAID cuts. It's besides what happened to Columbia with respect to that $400 cardinal chopped - national chopped that impacted a batch of research. There's - truthful there's aggregate domains wherever they're being impacted close now. This is - this isn't each DOGE led.
I deliberation we request to beryllium precise cautious erstwhile it comes to probe programs wherever patients are involved.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
SCOTT GOTTLIEB: You know, if you marque a mistake with a programme similar a website that you took down, you tin ever enactment it backmost up. But erstwhile you chopped a assistance to a programme wherever patients are involved, wherever continuity of attraction is truly important to those patients, you request to marque accommodation for that, oregon not marque those cuts successful the archetypal place.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes.
SCOTT GOTTLIEB: I bash cognize - I've had immoderate conversations - I deliberation DOGE is alert of that and trying to beryllium mindful of those impacts.
MARGARET BRENNAN: No, it's a - it's an important constituent to beryllium strategical erstwhile it comes to aesculapian care.
Dr. Gottlieb, convey you for your insight.
We'll beryllium backmost successful a moment.
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MARGARET BRENNAN: We instrumentality present to the Venezuelan deportation case. And for what's next, we're joined by our Justice Department correspondent, Scott Macfarlane and our migration newsman Camilo Montoya-Galvez.
It's bully to person you some here.
Camilo, you did immoderate bonzer reporting this week and obtained the names of the migrants who were sent to El Salvador. That's accusation that the medication refused to stock with a national judge, but you got it.
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ: That's right.
MARGARET BRENNAN: What did you learn?
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ: We're inactive investigating each azygous lawsuit connected this database of 238 Venezuelan men who were sent to El Salvador to beryllium imprisoned there, but this is what we know. We cognize that according to tribunal filings and besides our ain findings present astatine CBS News, immoderate of the radical connected this database bash person transgression histories successful the U.S. oregon overseas successful countries similar Peru, Chile and Columbia. But we besides cognize that, according to the government, galore of these radical bash not person immoderate transgression grounds successful the U.S. And we person received documents from lawyers and attorneys and besides the household members of the deportees who accidental that these people, immoderate of them, bash not person immoderate transgression past successful the U.S. But the medication is accusing each of them of being portion of this transnational pack known arsenic Tren de Aragua.
But however that accusation is being made is astatine the halfway of this story. The medication says they person U.S. quality and different techniques to place these radical arsenic suspected TDA members, but their relatives and their lawyers accidental that immoderate of these men were identified arsenic TDA simply due to the fact that of tattoos.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And that is truly wherever we get to the ineligible nub of the statement is, tin you, arsenic - arsenic Senator Paul was saying, bypass the close to a time successful tribunal connected the ground of idiosyncratic having immoderate tattoos?
So, Scott, the Trump medication is going to person this entreaty tomorrow, arsenic I recognize it. You were successful national tribunal Friday erstwhile the justice said it was, quote, awfully frightening however the medication stretched the law. They are looking for this fight. Why?
SCOTT MACFARLANE: There's 2 antithetic fights they're looking for. The ineligible is 1 of them. They are going to beryllium successful the appeals tribunal tomorrow. They'll spell to the Supreme Court perchance eventually, trying to consolidate powerfulness to marque it an 18th period world close present wherever you tin expel radical who are locked up presently connected U.S. ungraded without having to spell done the courts, adjacent though the courts are trying to drawback mistakes and marque definite nobody's scooped precocious erroneously.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Even though you could deport them anyhow?
SCOTT MACFARLANE: You tin inactive deport them anyhow. That's 1 combat they're looking to fight.
There's besides the governmental one, Margaret. There is truthful overmuch governmental upside
MARGARET BRENNAN: Right.
SCOTT MACFARLANE: To each of this for the Trump administration. And you heard that from the nationalist information advisor a fewer moments agone erstwhile helium told you this is simply a D.C. distinction. That the medication is not precisely acrophobic astir looking excessively assertive successful deporting suspected pack members. There's each kinds of wins there.
And past there's the different one, Margaret. The villainization of Washington, D.C., national judges, which tin galvanize the blimpish basal and the Trump base. And you saw that Friday successful the courtroom with the judge, James Boesberg, pushing backmost connected the president's allegations that helium conscionable wants to acceptable these pack members free. The justice said, they are inactive locked up. You tin deport them the mean mode without invoking this 18th period law. Let's spot however overmuch much pushback determination is from the president to the judge. There was much overnight connected Truth Social.
MARGARET BRENNAN: They're - yes, he's spoken astir it. He's posted astir this judge, raising different concerns.
Camilo, though, you really person reported retired what was done down the scenes to bring this each to a head, to acceptable up this fight. What did you learn?
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ: What I tin archer you is that based connected conversations with DHS sources, the medication was actively preparing for this cognition good earlier the president really signed this proclamation, unbeknownst to the nationalist past Friday earlier the White House really published the existent proclamation connected Saturday, March 15th and earlier those planes took disconnected -
MARGARET BRENNAN: Meaning bash it arsenic rapidly arsenic possible?
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ: That's right. They staged a roundup crossed the state of suspected TDA members and transferred those radical to a Texas detention center. And by the clip the justice held the archetypal exigency proceeding connected this case, determination were already 2 planes successful the aerial and different 1 acceptable to instrumentality off.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Knowing that they mightiness person to look a combat backmost successful the courts.
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ: Yes.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Scott, the president has issued astatine slightest 3 enforcement orders that we person clocked impacting backstage instrumentality firms who represented clients astatine likelihood with President - oregon past Mr. Trump. That's atrocious for backstage business. One of those instrumentality firms chopped a deal, $40 million. What's the interaction here?
SCOTT MACFARLANE: I talked to 1 of the lawyers who's been targeted by 1 of these actions. He says, they're trying to instrumentality maine disconnected the playing field. They're trying to instrumentality others disconnected the playing tract arsenic we proceed to situation the medication successful course. A chilling impact to marque it harder to record these lawsuits that person been the firewall truthful acold connected the Trump administration.
But there's a favoritism successful the latest circular of actions prohibiting these instrumentality firms based successful Washington from doing concern successful authorities buildings oregon with authorities employees. That is simply a decease condemnation for a Washington, D.C. instrumentality firm. And, successful fact, 1 of those firms, Perkins Coie, the ones challenging this successful court, said arsenic overmuch to the judge, this would termination us. And the justice present successful Washington has, for now, held disconnected connected the Trump enforcement enactment to portion Perkins Coie. But we'll spot however agelong that extortion lasts.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And this has knock=on affects for others seeking ineligible services but also, arsenic you said, makes them hard to conscionable function.
SCOTT MACFARLANE: Especially the stripping of information clearances, Margaret. That makes it harder for a whistleblower astatine the FBI, oregon the CIA, oregon the Pentagon to find a lawyer to stroke the whistle. It makes it imaginable specified whistles volition not beryllium blown.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Right, due to the fact that they request to question counsel who person quality to woody with classified information.
SCOTT MACFARLANE: Right.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Camilo, the medication announced Friday they're revoking ineligible presumption of fractional a cardinal migrants who came present legally from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela during President Biden's term. This is different combat they wanted to have. But if the volition - the stated volition is to spell aft the worst of the worst and deport them, wherefore absorption connected radical who bothered to beryllium present legally?
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ: Well, the medication would reason that the Biden medication abused its migration enforcement authorization to make this programme without Congress and that the radical who came present nether this argumentation are undercutting American workers and that they are fundamentally amerciable immigrants arsenic well. And present they are turning them into amerciable immigrants by stripping them of their ineligible status, their enactment permits, their deportations protection. Right present they have, for the adjacent 30 days, a accidental to self-deport done a smartphone app. If they don't bash that, DHS is informing that they volition beryllium found, arrested and deported from the country.
And this crackdown connected migration by the medication is besides extending to different parts of the migration system. We besides cognize that the medication is suspending backing – national backing for ineligible services providers and lawyers to assistance - who assistance migrant children, who person near national custody, oregon who are inactive successful national custody and who are facing deportation.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And this is each intentional, the taking backing away, adjacent from migrant kids?
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ: Yes, this medication does not judge that national funds should beryllium utilized for radical who are successful the state illegally oregon without ineligible permission.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Gentlemen, you're going to beryllium busy. Thank you for breaking it each down for us. I admit it.
MACFARLANE: Thank you.
CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ: Thank you.
MARGARET BRENNAN: We'll beryllium close back.
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MARGARET BRENNAN: That's it for america today. Thank you each for watching. Until adjacent week. For FACE THE NATION, I'm Margaret Brennan.
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