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The pursuing is simply a transcript of an interrogation with South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem that aired connected May 5, 2024.
MARGARET BRENNAN: We statesman this greeting with the Republican politician of the authorities of South Dakota, Kristi Noem, her upcoming memoir. No Going Back, is retired this Tuesday. And she joins america from Watertown, South Dakota. Welcome backmost to Face the Nation.
GOV. KRISTI NOEM: Thank you, Margaret. Thank you for inviting maine to beryllium connected with you today.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, Governor, I person your publication close here, the precise archetypal blurb successful it is an endorsement from Donald Trump. He says this publication gets a winner, lays retired a fantastic program to marque America large again. I cognize you're backmost from a gathering with Mr. Trump and different Republicans successful Florida. Did helium notation immoderate of the effect to your publication astatine all?
GOV. NOEM: Oh, helium surely knows astir the book, and I admit his endorsement of it. You know, this is truly a publication that talks astir however we're not going back. It's- we're nary going backmost to the days earlier Donald Trump, Donald Trump broke politics. And I deliberation that's a bully thing. We're not going backmost to the days of Mitt Romney oregon the Bushes, that present there's a caller mode to bash and speech to the American people, and they admit it. It's an honest, genuine speech astir what these citizens tin bash to instrumentality backmost their authorities and to person much input. So this publication is truly a however to usher for however to marque your dependable heard and however for radical successful this country, what they tin bash to truly marque definite that they are getting genuine elected officials that truly privation to springiness them much state and liberty.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So, you constitute astir lessons learned successful leadership, and you bring up immoderate circumstantial incidents I privation to inquire you about. You speech astir gathering immoderate satellite leaders and 1 circumstantial one, quote, "I retrieve erstwhile I met with North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un, I'm definite helium underestimated maine having nary hint astir my acquisition staring down small tyrants. I've been a children's pastor aft all." Did you conscionable Kim Jong Un?
GOV. NOEM: Well, you know, arsenic soon arsenic this was brought to my attention, I surely made immoderate changes and looked astatine this- this passage, and I've met with many, galore satellite leaders, I've traveled astir the world. As soon arsenic it was brought to my attention, we went guardant and person made immoderate edits. So I'm gladsome that this publication is being released successful a mates of days, and that those edits volition beryllium successful place, and that radical will- volition person the updated version.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So you did not conscionable with Kim Jong Un? That's what you're saying.
GOV. NOEM: No, I've met with many, galore satellite leaders, galore satellite leaders. I've traveled astir the world, I deliberation I've talked extensively successful this publication astir my clip serving successful Congress, my clip arsenic governor, earlier governor, immoderate of the travels that I've had. I'm not going to speech astir my circumstantial meetings with satellite leaders, I'm conscionable not going to bash that. This anecdote shouldn't person been successful the book, and arsenic soon arsenic it was brought to my attention, I made definite that that was adjusted. So the publication is not released until Tuesday. And truthful we're doing each that we tin to marque definite that those changes are made. And I'm going to proceed to absorption connected what this publication is, and the blueprint that it lays retired for the American national connected each of the things successful the inheritance and stories of my life, but besides what I deliberation that needs to beryllium identified successful authorities and was breached today. I speech astir however breached the wealth crippled is, however breached it is that-that we've got consultants that are getting affluent disconnected of elected officials, and past however fake immoderate elected politicians are.
MARGARET BRENNAN: -- Sure--
GOV. NOEM: Every azygous idiosyncratic successful this state wants idiosyncratic successful elected bureau that's- that's a quality being that doesn't accidental they're perfect. I instrumentality work for that being successful the book. And arsenic soon arsenic it was brought to my attention, I asked for it to beryllium changed. So I'm gladsome that the merchandise day is successful a mates of days. And we're excited to speech to America, astir my caller book. No Going Back.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So you speech astir your clip successful the Armed Services Committee from 2013 to 2015. In that play of time, the person of South Korea was a pistillate president. I'm wondering, who is it that you confused Kim Jong Un with?
GOV. NOEM: Well, I deliberation you request to retrieve Margaret, and everybody needs to retrieve that I've worked connected Ag argumentation and national argumentation for implicit 30 years. My clip successful serving and making policies successful this state has been extended and covered decades–
MARGARET BRENNAN: -- Right, but you ne'er went to North Korea--
GOV. NOEM: I made nary specifics successful this book, I speech astir the information that– yes, I have. I've been there.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You went- you went to North Korea?
GOV. NOEM: I went to the DMZ. And determination are details- determination details successful this publication that speech astir going to the DMZ and specifics that I'm consenting to share. There's immoderate specifics I'm not consenting to stock with you. I've traveled the world, and I visited with satellite leaders. And immoderate of that is referenced successful the book. And this anecdote is thing that erstwhile it was brought to my attention, we made immoderate changes, and erstwhile the publication is released, we'll bash each that we tin to spot that, that that is reflected.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay. Well, I'm asking you astir that specifically due to the fact that you made the constituent to bring him up twice, and that helium was a "little tyrant."--
GOV. NOEM: -- Do you person a question for me, Margaret?
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yes, I do. South Korea is simply a pact ally, North Korea is simply a atomic equipped adversary, truthful That's a–
GOV. NOEM: Hello?
MARGARET BRENNAN: -- beauteous large happening to confuse. I cognize you work this publication earlier it was published–
GOV. NOEM: I'm atrocious I –
MARGARET BRENNAN: – due to the fact that you released video of your signaling of the audio book. you didn't drawback these errors erstwhile you were signaling it?
GOV. NOEM: Well, Margaret, arsenic soon arsenic it was brought to my attention, I took enactment to marque definite that it was reflected. And listen, this is what is truthful discouraging astir authorities successful the media today, is that we person the White House that conscionable precocious came retired and confirmed that President Joe Biden has misspoken, has made mistakes, has adjacent outright lied implicit adjacent to 150 times conscionable this year, and you've done thing to question him connected immoderate of that. And you're- you're talking astir a publication that hasn't been released yet that's been corrected earlier it's been released. And you haven't said 1 happening astir Joe Biden saying that helium was successful situation with Nelson Mandela, that helium started the Civil Rights Movement.
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MARGARET BRENNAN: -- If I had an interrogation with Joe Biden, who I've asked for aggregate times, I volition decidedly inquire him astir his record. But I'm asking you astir your publication here, which we have--
GOV. NOEM: -- I'm conscionable asking for why- wherefore americium I being treated otherwise than each different idiosyncratic that you've interviewed? I've looked astatine your past respective weeks of your interviews–
MARGARET BRENNAN: -- I'm quoting you--
GOV. NOEM: -- You don't, you don't interrupt different people, you fto them talk, convey you for inviting maine to person this speech astir this book. This publication is highly important to the radical of this country. It is important due to the fact that it's a however to usher of what they tin bash to person input into their government, however we request breakers and builders successful this world. And I'm taking work for the alteration that we've made.
MARGARET BRENNAN: -- Okay. And for the mistake successful the book?--
GOV. NOEM: -- I've told you that and I'm– no, it's not, what I've said is that I person decided–
MARGARET BRENNAN: You're not taking work for the mistakes successful the book?
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GOV. NOEM: I americium saying that this publication is very, precise good. And I've met with galore satellite leaders, and that either satellite leaders that I've met with that are successful this book, determination are galore that I met with that are not successful this book. And this is an anecdote that- that I asked to person removed, due to the fact that I deliberation it's due astatine this constituent successful time, but I'm not going to speech to you astir those idiosyncratic meetings that I've had with satellite leaders. I'm conscionable not going to person that speech due to the fact that I deliberation it's important.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay. You bash notation Benjamin Netanyahu arsenic well, though successful it among satellite leaders. In an interrogation with TIME Magazine this week, erstwhile President Donald Trump was asked astir Israel and Hamas, and helium said, quote, "Bibi Netanyahu rightfully has been criticized for what took spot connected October 7." Do you hold with Mr. Trump?
GOV. NOEM: I deliberation that Bibi Netanyahu was a beardown person who's starring Israel done highly hard times. October 7th was horrific, and the crimes that Hamas committed against the Jewish radical were perfectly awful, and that the United States of America should basal beardown with our allies successful the Middle East. I'm arrogant to- to cognize the Jewish radical and their leaders implicit many, galore years. And I deliberation that what Hamas is doing and the atrocities that were committed are horrific, and that we should ne'er basal for the anti-semitism that we spot going connected successful the United States of America. And what's happens connected our assemblage campuses is perfectly devastating. It should beryllium unopen down immediately. I'm disappointed that President Joe Biden didn't instrumentality enactment instantly to halt these convulsive crimes against the Jewish radical that person happened connected our ain assemblage campuses close present successful the United States of America, should person ne'er been allowed and it should beryllium stopped today.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay, truthful you don't hold with Mr. Trump's connection there. I privation to inquire you again astir the book. I- I cognize you know, this question is coming, due to the fact that there's been specified an tremendous backlash astir your revelation that you changeable and killed a Wirehair Pointer oregon named Cricket, who was 14 months old. You accidental successful the book, she came from different household that struggled with her aggression, you'd been grooming her to hunt, she got excessively excited, ruined the hunt, and past attacked and killed immoderate chickens. I wonderment if you person regrets astir sharing this story.
GOV. NOEM: You know, Margaret, this publication is filled with vulnerable, achy moments successful my life, filled with times wherever I've made precise hard decisions. The crushed that this communicative is successful the publication due to the fact that radical request to recognize who I americium and immoderate of those hard decisions. This was a unsafe carnal that was sidesplitting livestock and attacking people. And- and I had small children astatine the time, our cognition had galore kids moving astir and radical successful enactment with the public. And I made a hard choice. I deliberation you're a parent too. And you person small kiddos, would you marque a prime betwixt your children oregon a unsafe animal? And I deliberation I would inquire everybody successful the state to enactment themselves successful that situation. Because that's what I faced and I speech astir it due to the fact that what I'm bushed of successful this state is politicians who unreal to beryllium thing that they're not. That they aren't consenting to person the hard conversations and look astatine the past and the pugnacious decisions that they've made. I'm- what I speech astir successful the publication extensively erstwhile radical are capable to get it connected Tuesday is to spot the full communicative and the truth, not the rotation that the media has enactment connected this story. The media has enactment immoderate oregon removed- removed astir of the facts and and what the crushed this is successful determination is due to the fact that I privation radical to cognize that I don't inquire anybody other to instrumentality connected my responsibilities. I understood my responsibility. And arsenic a mom, I made a prime betwixt protecting my children, and protecting them from a unsafe carnal that was sidesplitting livestock and attacking people. And that's a determination that I made--
MARGARET BRENNAN: -- Well, I-I described- I described- I deliberation accurately however you wrote it up successful the book. You didn't accidental the canine attacked people, you said it had tried to wound you. And I conscionable wonderment wherefore you concluded that a young canine was untrainable and not conscionable instrumentality it to a shelter?
GOV. NOEM: This canine was a- well, this canine was a moving dog. And it had travel from a household that already had issues with this dog. And I had enactment months and months of grooming into this dog. This canine had gone to different trainers arsenic well. So -so each of that is the facts of the story. And each of that shows that erstwhile you enactment idiosyncratic successful a presumption wherever they person to marque a decision, and they privation to support their family, and support children and different radical from getting attacked from an carnal that has attacked others and killed livestock, that's the prime I made implicit 20 years ago. And that I didn't inquire idiosyncratic other to take- instrumentality that work for me, that I had to marque that determination myself.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Because you enactment it successful a portion of a section called "Bad Day to Be a Goat." And past aft you changeable the dog, you punctuation "realized different unpleasant occupation needed to beryllium done walking backmost up to the yard, I spotted our billy goat." You said helium smelled and would pursuit kids. So you took him to the gravel pit and changeable him twice. How- however bash you warrant that? How was the goat a threat? And I'm asking you this due to the fact that it seems similar you're celebrating the sidesplitting of the animals.
GOV. NOEM: Not astatine all. This has been a communicative that my governmental opponents person tried to usage against maine for years. It's good known successful South Dakota, and it has been to different people. And I privation the information to beryllium retired determination and to recognize that- that these animals were attacking my children, that- that we unrecorded connected a workplace and ranch and the pugnacious decisions are made galore times. And it is- it is to support people. And I'll archer you the- the extremism of different radical and however they person attacked maine politically, I recognize it. They're doing the aforesaid happening to me, that they bash to Donald Trump each day, each day. The changeless attacks and coming after- during COVID, I was attacked astatine nighttime aft nighttime for months aft period for the decisions that I made. In fact, you and galore different journalists attacked maine each azygous time connected TV for months for the decisions that I made successful South Dakota, for my radical to support their freedoms--
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MARGARET BRENNAN: -- I deliberation we had a very, I deliberation we had a precise just interview--
GOV. NOEM: -- So-so I'm utilized to being attacked--
MARGARET BRENNAN: -- When you joined america ma'am astatine that clip and I thanked you for answering questions connected it. But connected the- connected this point, though, due to the fact that you person been rumored to beryllium a imaginable vice-presidential candidate, arsenic you know. And erstwhile House Speaker Newt Gingrich said "killing the canine and past penning astir it ended immoderate anticipation of her being picked arsenic VP." You speech aggregate times astir it. In fact, astatine the extremity of the book, you accidental the precise archetypal happening you would bash if you got to the White House that was antithetic from Joe Biden, is you'd marque definite Joe Biden's canine was obscurity connected the grounds, Commander accidental hullo to Cricket. Are you doing this to effort to look tough? Do you inactive deliberation that you person a changeable astatine being a VP?
GOV. NOEM: Well, fig one, Joe Biden's canine has attacked 24 Secret Service people. So however galore radical is capable radical to beryllium attacked and dangerously wounded earlier you marque a determination connected a dog? And --
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MARGARET BRENNAN: -- Well he's not surviving astatine the White House anymore--
GOV. NOEM: -- That's the question that the President should beryllium held accountable to.
MARGARET BRENNAN: -- You're saying helium should beryllium shot?--
GOV. NOEM: -- That what's the president should beryllium accountable to. What is- what is the number. And I would accidental astir Republicans criticizing me. These are the aforesaid Republicans person criticized maine during COVID. They've criticized maine erstwhile I've made different decisions successful South Dakota to support my state. And my authorities contiguous is highly blessed and thriving. We're doing well. We've got thousands of radical moving to our state, due to the fact that they emotion the opportunities that are present and the businesses that person travel and however we've gotten to beryllium a authorities that has 1 of the lowest unemployment rates successful the nation. Everybody has an accidental for higher wages. We've got revenues and reserves, we paid disconnected our debt. We've got a triple A recognition rating, we've got a afloat funded pension system. We were the archetypal authorities successful the federation to--
MARGARET BRENNAN: -- truthful you're not going to retract the book? --
GOV. NOEM: -- Bring a measure to forestall China--
MARGARET BRENNAN: -- Governor--
GOV. NOEM: -- I- this publication is simply a almighty book. It's an honorable book. It's an honorable publication about- blueprint for America of what citizens tin bash present to instrumentality their state back. And I'm truthful arrogant of this publication and- and what it volition bring to people. I anticipation that they volition bargain it they'll find a batch of truthful stories and we speech a batch astir what we tin usage arsenic an illustration from Donald Trump connected however helium has continued to beryllium a existent person, been genuine and been honorable to radical and that--
MARGARET BRENNAN: -- But if you person to retract it, oregon parts of it--
GOV. NOEM: -- And that what bothers maine astir astir politicians is erstwhile they're fake. I'm not retracting anything. I'm not retracting anything. No this book--
MARGARET BRENNAN: Alright, Governor convey you for taking the questions and joining america today. Face the Nation volition beryllium backmost successful a minute, enactment with us.
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